Thursday, June 30, 2005

Shouldn't we all just get along?

There seems to be a new mantra in the daily chatter I've heard recently, suggesting anyone not willing to passively agree with the moral values placed on us by certain folks is either un-American, uncouth, unkind or unfriendly. Churches who impose certain views on their congregations, basing membership on things that should never be considered prerequisites for salvation, teach laziness, teach people to stop thinking for themselves. Threads on message boards titled "United We Stand Game," --the object of which is to find three things "we all agree on." If someone objects, he's out of the game. If you can't agree, you can't play--is that it? "Supporting the Troops [...I think it's safe to add that we ALL support our troops...]" is another. Yes, even the troops who decide to torture, over the course of several days, unsuspecting taxi drivers to death, I suppose. But they are troops so it's okay, right? And what is, "I think it's safe to add that we ALL..."? Safe? Who cares if it's safe? Stop being so damn SAFE all the time! (yes of COURSE I'm talking to myself--I'd never preach at you). And. I tend to bristle when anyone includes me in his or her 'we all' assumptions. Attention, person who does not know me: please stop speaking for me. Thank you.

But what boggles me is this need to find something that everyone...EVERYONE...will agree with. Is it so important to have perfect harmony, or to pretend to? What fear has instilled this urgency in people? More and more often this behavior reminds me of that horrible wonderful book somebody made me read. And sadly, I think I know the answers to these questions. As for the question in my blog's title, the answer should be a resounding "NO!" Sprinkled, I suppose, with a few yesses to ward off the irony of my ownself's thoughts. Or we all lose.

Wait. We all are losing. It's happening, isn't it. Tin foil hats, everyone, and hurry.



Anonymous Swami said...

I, for one, do not support the troops. In vaguely humanistic terms I seperately support those individual human beings who are currently troopified. But support the troops? Nope. Not me.

10:57 AM  
Blogger TechNoir said...

I, for one, am going to try to take your direction to heart. In particular this: "Stop being so damn SAFE all the time!" I'll work on it. I really will.

I made you read the book, didn't I?

But this post is perfectly on point, in a global sense. I'm struggling with my reaction to a recent thread I saw elsewhere wherein many folks wanted to live back in the fifties. And my growing perception that Our President is trying to restart the cold war. Cold War II - The War on Terror. So we can all go back to putting all our tax money into the military and pretending we are happy. Put on your nylons and lipstick to make hubby those pancakes.

Damnit, everything is political, isn't it?

11:14 AM  
Blogger Buggy said...

Well said, my friend!
I get very uncomfortable when someone wants to try to speak for everyone. I don't want to march to anyones drummer, I want to to my own beat.

1:22 PM  
Blogger Badger said...

the forced conformity certainly smells like mccarthyism all over again. only strangely enough, the question now is something like "are you or have you ever been a liberal?" -- and then, wham! you're blacklisted.

1:42 PM  
Blogger Bravie said...

So am I supposed to find an argument here just so I don't conform with what you said? Because I'm actually in agreeance with you. But I don't want anyone to think that you are speaking for me. *smooch*

4:51 PM  
Anonymous ExI said...

I disagree!

Okay, I don't really (since she is wise, the wheezus), but I figured it would go better with the sentiment of the post. :)


6:42 PM  
Blogger jenbeauty said...

"Shouldn't we all just get along?"

Yes, yes we should. Now hurry up and conform, don't disagree with me as you might hurt my fragil ego and force my insecurity levels to go up.

This, coming from the lemming...who knew?

P.S. don't *whack* me Wheezy, I am just here for the laughs!

7:01 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think it's safe to say that the banana is a uniter *grin*

Yes Wheezy, I too fear we are losing. I once posted that I feared we were moving backwards and someone pointed out that we really weren't. After watching the news, I truly believe we are losing and I'm frightened.

Give my regards to Bruiser & Supes :-)


7:03 AM  
Blogger Barry said...

I guess I am a hopeless romantic. "Can't we all just get along?" truly resonates with me. I know it is simplistic but I loved enumerating the things that everyone (or virtually everyone) agreed upon. However, I understand that people have passionate beliefs and want to hold on to them. I hope everyone has a happy Independence Day and celebrates the things that they see as great about this country. I am not trying to tell anyone how to think and you are, of course, free to be miserable all weekend.

7:20 AM  
Blogger TechNoir said...

But, Barry, imo while you were loving enumerating the things that everyone agreed on, you were actually excluding the non-agreers and creating a little exclusive society. It isn't that everyone agreed. It is that those who didn't agree were not comfortable saying so. And that, sir, is social control not harmony.

But I really just came back to toot my own horn. Because I decided to expand on my above remarks on my fabulous narcissistic blog. Here:
I'm thinking of expanding it more into an article because the more I think about it, the more it fits.

7:38 AM  
Anonymous wheeze said...

The problem in my opinion, Barry, is that for those who think people should all get along, also appear to think that if anyone has a negative word to say about the state of the nation, they are choosing to be miserable and don't support the country or the troops.

It's not all or nothing. And it shouldn't be 'Either we all agree or you are un-patriotic'. I have never chosen to be miserable about this country. Your comment seems to imply that anyone who disagrees with an idealistic view has decided to be miserable. That is taking it to an extreme. I see fantastic things happening in this country--but I highly doubt everyone sees them that way, and I doubt you'd agree on what my view of a good thing is.

I can't imagine enjoying Utopia. I'd rather choose to be miserable than lie and say everything is grand, when it clearly isn't. Thank God we don't have to make that choice--not yet.

7:56 AM  
Blogger Buggy said...

I'm not miserable.

9:00 AM  
Blogger Barry said...

Perhaps I phrased my comment poorly. All I was trying to say was I like when people "get along." Nevertheless, people do not get along and that is fine too. I completely understand that there is NO compromise on many issues. It is not acceptable to get the "God hates fags!" guy to the point where he says "God doesn't necesarily like fags." I would really like to get him to the point where he went around saying "God loves everyone!" I will continue to strive for unity and bringing people together in a spirit of openess and tolerance, because I truly believe that "God loves everyone." Others can take another course and I am not trying to shut them down.

9:48 AM  
Blogger Alice said...

Amen, Wheeze. Why is being or thinkng differently so wrong? It would be a very boring world if we all agreed on everything.

3:32 PM  
Blogger Buggy said...

Barry, I get you wanting to share your opinion, and dissagreement with Wheezy's statements. But this isn't a message board, it's her personnal Blog and it is all about her opinions and sharing what she thinks, whether you agree or not isn't the point.
It's her forum.
She is kind enough to allow people to comment, not all Blogs do.
I can't speak for her, but what I know of her tells me that she is for openness and tolerance, just not necessarily for everyone going along with the crowd.

6:41 PM  

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